[Info-Ingres] ABF Debugger / NAIUA

[Karl & Betty Schendel]

At 9:18 PM +0100 11/5/07, Andrew Wilson wrote:
>Hi group,
>
>I am looking for an ABF debugger, and can see that NAIUA has this listed
>under their membership area.
>
>Does anybody know if  the group is still active (unable to open the
>application form as it is word, and no response from the mail link)?
>
>Alternatively, does anyone know of an ABF debuuger? Is the NAIUA group one
>any good?

The NAIUA is moribund at the moment, and has been for quite
some while.   While there is plenty of Ingres usage in
North America, there doesn't seem to be any great amount
of user group interest, at least not at that level.  There has
been sporadic regional and local user-group activity, although
I don't keep track.

As for the ABF "debugger" -- I downloaded the linked-to
tar file from the naiua site, and it's not a debugger as
you might think of one.  It appears to be a semi automated
way of inserting message statements into the source;  I
didn't dig into it at all.

Unfortunately, in all the years I used ABF/4GL, I never heard
of any real debugger for it.  At this stage in ABF's life, it
would be a serious labor of love to produce such a thing.
(Meaning that you are unlikely to make any money or get
any great amount of thanks for doing it.)
Since ABF can be run interpreted, a debugger would certainly
seem to be possible, but nobody I know has ever looked at
doing it.

Karl